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Fan Commentary

Fan Speak - Part Two (Going to Races)

by Grandstand Bob

In last week's column, I asked fans to send me suggestions about what NASCAR could do to quell fan discontent and to bring back fans who are feeling alienated. I intended to write a column based on this feedback, but the responses were so overwhelming and well stated, that I really couldn't say it any better myself. Thus, I'm turning over the next six columns to the fans.

I would put this all in one column, but it would take 24 pages to do that. Grandstand Bob Instead, I've separated the comments into different categories. First, I'll list the general comments. Following that, I'll list comments related to attending races, Internet broadcasts, rules, television and tradition. These comments will appear in successive days, so make sure that you keep coming back to ARS Racing Outlet to check.

All of these are straight from fans. I didn't edit a word, but I did cut out names and addresses to protect fan privacy. If I didn't list your comments, please don't be offended. I tried to avoid repetition, so I couldn't include everyone's writing, though I did read each and every message. Thanks for your participation, and make sure that you check back each day this week to read what fellow fans are saying.

Going to Races

-- I suggest that NASCAR remember who made the sport what it is today - the fans. Lower the ticket prices at some of those venues! Lower the beer prices! Make it easier, and less expensive, for a family to enjoy the entire race weekend. I don't mind them making an honest buck at any track, but gouging the wallets of the very people that make NASCAR profitable is biting the hand that feeds - and not good business. I see advertised prices for race tickets at southeast venues as low as $15 (obviously general admission) and cringe at the $60 charged by Sears Point Raceway for their Winston Cup race. Six dollar beers are ridiculous, as are four dollar sodas and three dollar bottles of water. I can buy a six-pack of the same for the price of one drink, if I could get the damn things inside the track in my banned cooler! (coolers that the vendors sell, by the way). Excessive charges for camping, parking, water hookups - the list goes on. We're not the NFL, with outrageous ticket prices for the nosebleed sections of a stadium. We're real, hometown folks with a "need for speed", loyal to our sport and our drivers. Give us a break, NASCAR!

-- I agree that NASCAR is not being very "fan friendly" in all the things they have done lately. It is so expensive that I can not afford to attend a race. I live in the state of Oklahoma and I have to travel 4 hours to Texas or 4 hours to Kansas to see a race, when you throw in the price of tickets, souvenirs, drinks, food, etc. I can't afford to go. I think NASCAR is being greedy in charging the fans so much. The vast majority of race fans are your everyday, middle class person who can't afford to spend that much for a race
weekend. It is just me that I have to worry about, I can't imagine trying to take a family of 4 to a " family friendly" NASCAR race, I would have to take out a second mortgage.

Well, the answer is easy - STOP GOING!!!!  Now I've been following since 1966 (Tiny Lund, Beltsville MD, June 1966), scored all through college (geez, saved $9 !!!), but you know what?  That money goes a heck of a lot further at a local track.   I had freebies to Richmond last fall ($85/seat, backstretch) and took a friend who loves racing, never been to a WC event - at the end we looked at each other and came to same conclusion - we can go to Williams Grove 5 times ($14/night) and have $15 left over for food (2 large pizzas & sodas), and see 6 - 12 races a night depending on the card.   No debate.  We go there, the sodas are cold, and we're in the pits.

So take the money elsewhere - lots of local racing (and good, no forced "parity"), little traffic, nice people, low prices for everything.

Oh - people are starting to notice another trend - the link between a race sponsor and the winner.....Darlington/Carolina Dodge, Atlanta MBNA/Gibbs.  Check back over the years at Richmond and see how many times Rusty Wallace happened to win a Miller or Pontiac (when he was driving those) 400.

-- I agree with you on all issues concerning how greedy NASCAR has become. We used to go to NHIS ,and it`s not the worst place. Racecast used to be our way to get the races that were not on the networks. Now we have to search the web for MRN affiliates that carry the races.

As for Daytona, NHIS and the rest of the tracks, we`re going to stay home. The prices are unreal, the parking problem is unbelievable, the drinks and food prices are pure theft. The souvenirs are so expensive it`s a shame. I`m a crewmember of an ACT(American-Canadian tour) Lms team. Winston cup was our pro-sport to enjoy. We now spend more at the local tour tracks, stay overnight(free camping), and buy the souvenirs that help the local racers. 

Canada is hockey country. But the NHL has gone the way of Nascar. The price of tickets is outrageous, food and parking expensive, we won`t talk about souvenirs. But you know what? There are empty seats at Montréal Canadians games..... Maybe the fans are not so dumb after all.                                                                                                                 

Oh yes you will get $1.60 for a $1US in Montréal if you tourist here. We have to shell out $1.60CDN for a $1US while at WC races...... Get gouged on top? Not anymore.

-- I'd like to see, before each race, in the pre-race ceremonies where "celebrities" are acknowledged, that time be taken to recognize and thank the fans. Without the fans, there'd be no sport!

-- I read your column about how NASCAR is putting the screws to the fans. I can't agree more. My wife and I attend both Bristol races each year and one race at MIS. The new cooler sizes are bullcrap! 9-11 was just what some of the tracks needed to excuse their greed in the name of safety! I am getting to the point where I am not enjoying NASCAR like I used to. It is not as exciting because I wonder what kind of a crazy call NASCAR will make during any given race. They need to make rules and enforce them for EVERYONE! No more "competition yellow" for invisible debris when someone has an exceptional lead on the rest of the field, just to give the fans a good show. I can go to the circus for a good show! Part of my lessening interest is due to the fact of losing Dale E. last year. My wife and I were both big fans of his. Now I cheer for aroung 20 drivers, none of which can take Dale's place.

-- I am with you all the way on your recent column about the "Final Straw" and I think I have about reached that point with all things NASCAR.     I mean HOW MUCH is enough for those folks?   When will they get the point?   They have driven many fans away, well I know I am not alone.

I started buying season tickets for the Michigan race back in 1988 - tickets in the grandstand then were $40.00 ea and we could camp across from the speedway in  a Hayfield for $20.00 for the week if desired. Gradually they raised tickets prices so that now they are $90.00 ea and camping last year went to $100.00.   The only amenities are a few portapotties and one place to fill water jugs with water that tastes like it is strongly fortified with iron.   Since they have continually added seats you have to go earlier & earlier every year to get a somewhat flat spot for your campsite. Concession prices are astronomical but we were able to counter that with bringing our own cooler with sandwiches and pop/water from home.

We would always shop the trailers and buy merchandise as well while we were there  which if you shopped and compared you might find some "better deals" on some things.    We drove over from Wisconsin so that added to our costs as well. About the time my son was old enough to go with my friends and I the costs had gotten to where it just wasn't worth it to me anymore.   We could take a family vacation elsewhere for the amount it would have cost to go to the race for a weekend.

The other thing that I dislike are the Multiple car teams, I mean WHO DOES Jack Roush pull for to win on Sunday?    There seems to be "No Enforcement" on the number of cars one person can own!  Plus Nascar seems to be pricing even the corporations out of sponsorships of cars. I don't want to see 4-5 people owing all the cars on the track!    I think it needs to be ONE TEAM - ONE CAR!

The other contradiction is the sanctioning body should not be allowed to own the racetracks.   There needs to be a separation of power there. Then maybe ticket prices etc would be more competitively priced as tracks would compete to offer an attractive package to Nascar to get race dates.

Also, NASCAR waited way to long to protect the drivers.   I am a Dale Earnhardt.Sr. fan and it just seemed NASCAR ignored the deaths of Irwin, Roper, Petty, etc and waited way to long to make safety advances. Dale hated restrictor plate racing, and yes he was good at it, but I suspect he would have been good at racing go karts as well.

Nascar's greed is evident all the way from the TV package which we all have to pay for down to charging for Racescan.     How long before Nascar races are a "pay for view event"?    But don't give them that idea!

You would think they would start to realize, I see empty seats at a lot of tracks especially in the southeast.    That will spread as alot of people just can't afford to pay the prices they charge anymore.    Well at least I won't.

-- I have been a diehard Nascar fan for many years (also my husband).We went to many races, bought a lot of merchandize and generally supported Nascar sponsors. We went to Daytona this year for speed weeks.  My cooler was fine for the truck race, IROC and even Busch series. However, the same cooler was not acceptable for the Daytona 500.  I merely emptied the thing, put all the drinks in my clear plastic bag and rolled up the cooler and put in my clear plastic bag, and dumped the ice.  After walking through the gates, I reassembled my cooler...sans the ice.  Seems the ice was the "terrorist activity" that I was bringing to NA$CAR.  I vowed not to go to any more races.

Allow coolers with ice and drinks in them and bags with food and snacks like the good old days. I am a long time NASCAR fan and I am among a growing group of fans who have just about had it with prices and rules that are making the sport too rich for my blood. I see a lot of empty seats at every event and tickets are plentiful for almost every race. That should tell NASCAR something. Wake up race fans. We are what supports this sport. Voice your opinion.

-- They won't turn it around until it hits them in the pocketbook. I dropped my tickets to the Busch race here at Gateway because Nascar insisted on selling the TV broadcast to Fox FX which is not carried on my cable provider (and a lot of others over the country). If I can not follow the races each week I lose interest.

If the fans stop buying food and drinks at ISC tracks, the Frances will get the message in a hurry. I am not going to spend the amount of money I spend going to a track along with very high motel prices and purchases at the trailers and then miss the biggest happening on the track because I was standing in line for half an hour to buy a soft drink for $4.00.

I have tickets for all of this year's races at Michigan and if the Frances do not change their attitude, they will have to try to sell those tickets to someone else next year.

When the fans stand up and say "enough is enough" by voting with their pocketbooks and declining TV watching Nascar will hear it loud and clear.

-- Since the tracks more than doubled their income from tv last year..it would seem that a rollback of ticket prices is in order...why squeeze $10 bucks from a live fan when you already are getting millions extra from viewers... how about organizing an embargo to let NASCAR know how we feel...?  If NOBODY showed up for the fall rockingham race  maybe they'd get the message? Better yet...the fall race at Charlotte...just have everyone stay home and watch it on tv...and send a powerful message to the owner of several tracks...and to NASCAR!!!

Fans Speak Part One

Grandstand Bob Profile and Past Columns

note: This opinions expressed in this column are those of writer and do not necessarily reflect the opinions or positions of ARS Racing Outlet or its parent company, amI, Inc.

 

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